What Arrows do you shoot out of your EXOMAX

NH Crossbow · Post by **NH Crossbow** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:08 pm

I have been shooting my Exomax with xx75 2219 with 5" vanes at 459.3 gr. I can hit a 1 inch orange dot at 40 yards off a rest . I wanted to try carbons so I got some Gold tip laser-2 from Dan Miller with brass insert in front alum rear and 4" vanes at 410.4 gr . I have been shooting indoors at 10 yards (too cold outdoors) My carbons shoot a 1 1/4 to the right and can hit the same hole . I did not think that a 5" vane to a 4" vane would make that much of a difference . Like I had said I am shooting at 10 yards. So I was wondering what bolts you use in your Exomax . I plan to order more carbons from Dan but wonder if I should go to 4'' on my xx75.

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:49 pm

By 5" vane to 4" vane would make that much difference what do you mean

BUCKeYeHunter · Post by **BUCKeYeHunter** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:00 pm

that's about a perfect bolt weight for your bow.

BUCKeYeHunter · Post by **BUCKeYeHunter** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:02 pm

perfect weight carbon bolts*

NH Crossbow · Post by **NH Crossbow** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 6:08 pm

Gary my thinking was that the 4" vane was spinning faster then the 5" vane causing it to shoot to the right . I must admit crossbows are a new venture for me so I dont know all the answers or if I am asking them right.

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:16 pm

NH Crossbow wrote:Gary my thinking was that the 4" vane was spinning faster then the 5" vane causing it to shoot to the right . I must admit crossbows are a new venture for me so I dont know all the answers or if I am asking them right.

I would not think so, if anything the new bolts should be shooting a little high as they are 50gr. lighter. You may be doing what I am..and that is jerking the trigger on that Max. I shoot left handed and still have not achieved a smooth pull on the trigger resulting in a pull to the left as I shoot.

As for the questions your doing fine, just had to clear it up for me..

NH Crossbow · Post by **NH Crossbow** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 9:59 am

Gary here is what I found out . The gold tip carbon have a 4 degree right hand offset . My 2219 are a straight fletch . This is why my carbons shoot to the right. What I would like to know is what have people found that works for them 4'' vanes or 5'' and what degree do they use.

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:25 pm

NH Crossbow wrote:Gary here is what I found out . The gold tip carbon have a 4 degree right hand offset . My 2219 are a straight fletch . This is why my carbons shoot to the right. What I would like to know is what have people found that works for them 4'' vanes or 5'' and what degree do they use.

First let me say and do not take it wrong

Right off set or left off set will make no difference in the way your bolts shoot. Only in the way they may spin.. However some off sets on the vanes can rub your rail if off set to much, under normal conditions 4deg. is not enough to rub. Even if it rubbed it would only slow down the bolt not throw it off to either side.

Reads like you have a different problem other then your carbon bolts. I shoot 4deg offset and also straight which is really a 2deg off set with no change in impact.

My prefence is 4deg. off set with feathers, lazer II's with brass insert and 100 gr. heads...total bolt weight is 400 - 402gr. I have been thinking of going to 425gr for the Max as I feel it is better to load up the limbs on this model more. Just my .50 cents worth.

NH Crossbow · Post by **NH Crossbow** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 3:37 pm

Gary I dont know what to say. I went out today and got a grayling fletching jig and some 4" vanes . I used the carbon to set the jig up and fletched a 2219 gamegetter at 451 gr . I shot of a rest and took my time on the trigger pull and the arrow went to the right a half inch. Then shot the carbon and it is still 1 1/4 right then shot the straight fletched and right on the money .Could the right hand off set cause the arrow to spin to that side? Are you useing 4'' or 5'' vanes in yours . I am just trying to understand this. What I have found out is the carbons are very hard to pull from the target

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:51 pm

NH Crossbow wrote:Gary I dont know what to say. I went out today and got a grayling fletching jig and some 4" vanes . I used the carbon to set the jig up and fletched a 2219 gamegetter at 451 gr . I shot of a rest and took my time on the trigger pull and the arrow went to the right a half inch. Then shot the carbon and it is still 1 1/4 right then shot the straight fletched and right on the money .Could the right hand off set cause the arrow to spin to that side? Are you useing 4'' or 5'' vanes in yours . I am just trying to understand this. What I have found out is the carbons are very hard to pull from the target

Could the right hand off set cause the arrow to spin to that side?
Not in my opinion, even with v-bows the flecthing/vanes can be either right or left fletch.

Are you useing 4'' or 5'' vanes in yours .
I am using 4" featchers @ 4deg. offset...I also have and shoot at times 4 or 5" straight flecthed feathers and have not seen any real difference.

the carbons are very hard to pull from the target
Carbons are hard too pull from most foam targets, lube the bolt with hand soap or arrow lube.

NH Crossbow · Post by **NH Crossbow** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:01 pm

Gary I think I know what I am doing wrong . One of my friends came over and was watching me shoot . I have a tender spot in my shoulder from surgery . I have the crossbow off to one side and my friend said that I am canting the bow to the right . Now I feel pretty dumb . Would that make my arrows fly to the right?

A.W · Post by **A.W** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:08 pm

NH Crossbow.

You may consider puting a level on your bow.

GaryL · Post by **GaryL** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:10 pm

NH Crossbow wrote:Gary I think I know what I am doing wrong . One of my friends came over and was watching me shoot . I have a tender spot in my shoulder from surgery . I have the crossbow off to one side and my friend said that I am canting the bow to the right . Now I feel pretty dumb . Would that make my arrows fly to the right?

Now I would have to say YES reasoning is sore/tender shoulder canting xbow and with out knowing it , you are by no doubt flinching or pulling to the right with your shot.

Still seems odd that the straight flecth would shoot different...but then again strange things do happen..

NH Crossbow · Post by **NH Crossbow** » Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:25 pm

Hey Gary thanks for trying to help me sort things out. I spent the day trying to get this to shoot with out adjusting my sights . When I was shooting well last week it was outdoors and I had my heavy jacket on . This week because of the cold I was shooting indoors (no Jacket) . Oh and here is something I just found on the 2219 . One of the vanes was unglued in the middle boy do I feel like a fool

. But like I said thank you for all your time. The good thing about all this is now I have a fletching Jig . If you ever make it to the east coast your more then welcome to stay here. Or if you ever want to hunt let me know.

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