Exocet Upgrades

[Vince]

Hi,

I bought my 165 lb carved limb Exocet back in 99.
Since then, i've upgraded it to Dissipitor Bars, Mag Tip limbs, FF string and improved it's overall performance.

At the Carp Sportmans Show, i was told the new Exocet 200 is not actually 'new' but an improvement over the Exocet. And the only difference between the Exocet and Exocet 200 is the forward mount limb system.

Is this upgrade available for my current Exocet?

I understand that if i buy a Phoenix, i can change-out the limb mounting hardware between the Phoenix and my Exocet and end-up with an Exocet 200 and a Vixen.
Is this correct?

[Partikle]

I understand that if i buy a Phoenix, i can change-out the limb mounting hardware between the Phoenix and my Exocet and end-up with an Exocet 200 and a Vixen.
Is this correct?

As far as draw weight and feet per second, yes this is correct.

[LoneWolf]

Hi,

I bought my 165 lb carved limb Exocet back in 99.
Since then, i've upgraded it to Dissipitor Bars, Mag Tip limbs, FF string and improved it's overall performance.

At the Carp Sportmans Show, i was told the new Exocet 200 is not actually 'new' but an improvement over the Exocet. And the only difference between the Exocet and Exocet 200 is the forward mount limb system.

Is this upgrade available for my current Exocet?

I understand that if i buy a Phoenix, i can change-out the limb mounting hardware between the Phoenix and my Exocet and end-up with an Exocet 200 and a Vixen.
Is this correct?

Please correct me if I'm wrong here.... With a 165# Exocet with one of the new risers mounted to it would up your Exocet's poundage up to a 190# crossbow. The rail deck is only 15 inches in lentgh on your Exocet as opposed to the 175# Exocets, which have a 15".5 long rail deck which would make it a 200# Exocet with the new riser. But you are correct about having a Vixen if your old riser was to be mounted on the Phoenix...

[Partikle]

With a 165# Exocet with one of the new risers mounted to it would up your Exocet's poundage up to a 190# crossbow. The rail deck is only 15 inches in lentgh on your Exocet as opposed to the 175# Exocets, which have a 15".5 long rail deck which would make it a 200# Exocet.

I'm not aware of the rail length on the older models but he said he upgraded to the new magtip limbs. So if it was a shorter rail length then the new model would he have somewhere around a 190# exocet?

[LoneWolf]

So if it was a shorter rail length then the new model would he have somewhere around a 190# exocet?

Yep.... 190#...that sounds about right!.

[LoneWolf]

My brother's first Excalibur was a 2001 165# Exocet with mag tips and he was getting about 285 fps out of it with 2213's and a fff string if I'm not mistaking...

[Partikle]

Vince,

I'd be interested in hearing the measurement of the draw weight on that bow and then the arrow velocity. If your still interested in a new riser you could probably get one custom made. My buddy is a mechanist and when he saw my exomax he said it would be pretty simple to machine a riser like that.

The only thing is, it might be a lot of work/expense for just a couple of more feet per second. It sounds like you have a nice set up right now. Which camo do you have on that bow?

[GaryL]

Ok fellows here is what you need to be-aware of....First the New Forward Limb Risers will not fit the the older rails that has the cast riser. The Newer Forward risers are smaller in width at the base.

[LoneWolf]

Thanks for pointing that out GaryL...

That's something I wasn't aware of, but now I am!...

I guess he would have to change rails as well for it to work...

LW...

[Vince]

OK, thanks for the info guys.

So, the older models (with cast riser) have a wider rail and won't accept the slimmer machined risers...makes sense.

The reason for my inquiry was two-fold:

1. My dad is interested in a xbow. He's tried my Exocet and physically, he can draw it back.
However, he's around 5' 7" with a bit of a paunch and struggles to get his body up and over the length of my Exocet to draw it back.

2. Up the performance of my current Exocet (whether it became a 190 or 200 lb xbow was inconsequential).


I figured, if i got him the shorter Phoenix and changed-out the riser with my Exocet, he'd end-up with a Vixen, a perfect deer xbow that would be easier to draw.......and i would end-up with something between an Exocet and an Exocet 200.

Kinda like....two birds with one stone

[ComfyBear]

Ok fellows here is what you need to be-aware of....First the New Forward Limb Risers will not fit the the older rails that has the cast riser. The Newer Forward risers are smaller in width at the base.

Gary I think you're mistaken. At the time that I attended the Excalibur Open House, I asked if I could upgrade the older 165# Exocet cast riser with the newer machined riser. Bill T., himself, told me that it could be done. It was with the Wolverine that it wasn't possible.

[Digger]

ComfyBear
Gary I think you're mistaken. At the time that I attended the Excalibur Open House, I asked if I could upgrade the older 165# Exocet cast riser with the newer machined riser. Bill T., himself, told me that it could be done. It was with the Wolverine that it wasn't possible.

None of my Wolverines woud take a riser made after 1992 they were to narrrow and wobbled on the Wolverine rail.

Digger

[GaryL]

I tried one of my new risers on my 185# and it was too narrow, I tried it on my 200# and no problem a MAX.. If it's a xbow with a machined riser ie: 150, 175, 200 it fits. Could be just my 185# but they won't fit it. And as Digger stated sure wont fit the Wolverine either.

Just tried to fit the forward limb riser on my 165# and the same thing, the new riser is too small(narrow) at will not fit down complety has a tilt to left or right as the rail will not go in the riser slot..

[ComfyBear]

Well Gary, seeing is believeing. It just makes me wonder why Bill told me otherwise. Something doesn't add up.

[GaryL]

Got that right ComfyBear, tolerances must be tighter. I have some room to move a little with the cast risers but tighter fit with the machined risers. The newer risers are about 1/16" too small.... at lest on the one's I have. May be different with some Have you tried it not putting you on the spot but would like ta know.