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Post by crazyfarmer » Fri Jan 28, 2011 8:23 pm

just curious, how many excal members conceal carry most or all of the time? The way things are these days you just never know what could happen. I recently picked up a glock 26 which I love. Small and compact compared to my duty glock 21 45cal. I love the 21 but its not very concealable LOL. I got a crossbreed supertuck IWB holster which you cant even tell is on!!

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Post by DrDan » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:07 am

I carry a 5 shot Taurus 44 Special Snubby - generally carry it Mexican style. Love it - with the muzzle brake it lets go of enough fire to emulate hell! On rare occasion I carry a Colt Government Model model 70. Enough weight in it to knock teeth loose without ever pulling the trigger.
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Re: concealed carry

Post by Dereck » Sat Jan 29, 2011 12:14 pm

Up here in the great white north we are not afforded that right
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Post by Pydpiper » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:04 pm

Other than LEO it doesn't happen here, life isn't valuable to our liberal government, money on the other hand.. Well if you look after money then you can apply to carry (Brinks for example).
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Post by crazyfarmer » Sat Jan 29, 2011 2:50 pm

i can see the plus side and negative sides though. We have just had a lot of shooting lately all throughout the US.

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Post by Pydpiper » Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:37 pm

crazyfarmer wrote:i can see the plus side and negative sides though. We have just had a lot of shooting lately all throughout the US.
Are your shootings from legal firearm owners? By legal I mean are they people who have taken the proper steps to obtain a firearm, then the steps for CC?
Here, 99.9% of the time a gun is used illegally, it was obtained illegally as well. Obviously having no bearing on those who are responsible, except of course the outcome from the distorted cries of the the liberals.

Gun control in Canada is ridiculous.
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Re: concealed carry

Post by wheelie » Sat Jan 29, 2011 6:28 pm

Pydpiper wrote:Gun control in Canada is ridiculous.
Our gun control is : "Nagging criminals into submission."

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Post by j.krug » Sun Jan 30, 2011 5:26 pm

DrDan wrote:I carry a 5 shot Taurus 44 Special Snubby - generally carry it Mexican style. Love it - with the muzzle brake it lets go of enough fire to emulate hell! On rare occasion I carry a Colt Government Model model 70. Enough weight in it to knock teeth loose without ever pulling the trigger.
What it Mexican style??
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Post by crazyfarmer » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:31 pm

Pydpiper wrote:
crazyfarmer wrote:i can see the plus side and negative sides though. We have just had a lot of shooting lately all throughout the US.
Are your shootings from legal firearm owners? By legal I mean are they people who have taken the proper steps to obtain a firearm, then the steps for CC?
Here, 99.9% of the time a gun is used illegally, it was obtained illegally as well. Obviously having no bearing on those who are responsible, except of course the outcome from the distorted cries of the the liberals.

Gun control in Canada is ridiculous.
illegally usually. You very seldom hear of a shooting where someone had a concealed permit. Usually its some nut that had a meltdown. We recently had a shooting where a guy walked into a police office and opened fire. Now in the news is some woman that shot her kids because they talked back to her. One was 14 and one was 16. Its some sick people in the world now!

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Post by evaughan » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:24 pm

Being Canadian and not being allowed to carry in public, i am curious as to how various states control or regulate the consumption of alcohol in combination with the concealed carry law. While I would feel safer in public if i could arm myself, I can't comprehend how dangerous a society would be in which significant numbers of armed civilians were allowed to concume alcohol to any degree while packing. Do states have laws similar to drinking and driving laws to deter people from packing at bars, nightclubs etc. while consuming alcohol in excess? Just curious.
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Re: concealed carry

Post by mikej » Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:26 am

Pydpiper wrote:
crazyfarmer wrote:i can see the plus side and negative sides though. We have just had a lot of shooting lately all throughout the US.
Are your shootings from legal firearm owners? By legal I mean are they people who have taken the proper steps to obtain a firearm, then the steps for CC?
Here, 99.9% of the time a gun is used illegally, it was obtained illegally as well. Obviously having no bearing on those who are responsible, except of course the outcome from the distorted cries of the the liberals.

Gun control in Canada is ridiculous.
i think you're spot on with this pyd , however i would say that in some cases the crime does have bearing on the responsible citizens , they are usually the ones being shot or robbed. the law abiding unarmed people are the most vulnerable.
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Re: concealed carry

Post by awshucks » Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:31 pm

Think you'll get a charge out of this borrowed article:

WHAT LIBERALS DON'T KNOW ABOUT GUNS, CHAPTER 217
February 2, 2011

Fresh off of blaming Jared Loughner's killing spree in the Tucson mall on Sarah Palin, liberals are now blaming it on high-capacity magazines. They might as well imprison everyone named "Jared" to prevent a crime like this from ever happening again.

During the presidential campaign, Obama said: "I don't know of any self-respecting hunter that needs 19 rounds of anything. You don't shoot 19 rounds at a deer, and if you do, you shouldn't be hunting." It would have been more accurate for him to end that sentence after the word "hunter."

It's so adorable when people who wouldn't know a high-capacity magazine from Vanity Fair start telling gun owners what they should want and need.

In fact, high-capacity mags put a predator like Loughner at a disadvantage because they are so long, unwieldy and difficult to conceal. This may be why the Tucson shooting appears to be the first spree killing involving a high-capacity magazine. It would have been easier for Loughner to bring two guns.

On the other hand, for a homeowner who is a poor marksman, a large-capacity clip could be a lifesaver.

But after every multiple murder, liberals come up with some crackpot idea to "do something" that invariably involves infringing on some aspect of our Second Amendment rights.

The ACLU won't let us put nuts in mental hospitals and Pima County Sheriff Clarence Dupnik wouldn't lock up Loughner even after he had broken the law several times.

In an open society that includes Sheriff Dumbnik and the ACLU, deranged individuals may explode into murder and mayhem now and then. The best we can do is enact policies that will reduce the death toll when these acts of carnage occur.

There's only one policy of any kind that has ever been shown to deter mass murder: concealed-carry laws. In a comprehensive study of all public, multiple-shooting incidents in America between 1977 and 1999, the highly regarded economists John Lott and Bill Landes found that concealed-carry laws were the only laws that had any beneficial effect.

And the effect was not small. States that allowed citizens to carry concealed handguns reduced multiple-shooting attacks by 60 percent and reduced the death and injury from these attacks by nearly 80 percent.

When there are no armed citizens to stop mass murderers, the killers are able to shoot unabated, even pausing to reload their weapons, until they get bored and stop. Some stop only when their trigger fingers develop carpal tunnel syndrome.

Consider just the school shootings -- popular sites for mass murder because so many schools are "gun-free zones." Or, as mass murderers call them, "free-fire zones."

At Columbine High School, two students killed 12 people before ending the carnage themselves by committing suicide. They didn't need high-capacity magazines because they were able to stop and reload.

At the Amish school shooting in 2006 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, the deranged killer murdered five little girls and then committed suicide.

In 1998, two students in Craighead County, Arkansas, killed five people, including four little girls, before the killers decided to stop and attempt an escape.

And in 2007, a deranged student killed 32 people at Virginia Tech -- 30 of them in a very short period of time in one building. He didn't need high-capacity magazines because he had two guns and reloaded.

There was no one to stop him.

School shootings that have been halted were almost always stopped by the happenstance of an armed citizen on school property.

In 2002, an immigrant in Virginia started shooting his classmates at the Appalachian Law School in Grundy. Two of his classmates retrieved guns from their cars, forcing the killer to drop his weapon and allowing a third classmate to tackle him.

Three dead.

In Santee, Calif., in 2001, when a student began shooting his classmates, the school activated its "safe school plan" -- as the principal later told CNN -- by sending a "trained campus supervisor" to stop the killer.

Possibly not realizing that he was in a gun-free zone, the killer responded by shooting the trained campus supervisor three times. Fortunately, an armed off-duty San Diego policeman happened to be bringing his daughter to school that day. With a gun, he stopped the killer and held him at bay until more police could arrive.

Two dead.

In 1997, a student at Pearl High School in Pearl, Miss., had already shot several people at his high school and was headed for the junior high school when assistant principal Joel Myrick retrieved a .45 pistol from his car and pointed it at the gunman's head, ending the slaughter.

Two dead.

In 1998, a student attending a junior high school dance at a restaurant in Edinboro, Pa., started shooting, whereupon the restaurant owner pulled out his shotgun, chased the gunman from the restaurant and captured him for the police.

One dead.

See the pattern?

In response to Columbine, schools adopted "anti-bullying" policies; in response to Virginia Tech, eBay ceased selling magazines online; in response to the Tucson shooting, liberals want to ban the particular magazine Loughner used.

And then the next killer will come along with a different arsenal and a different motive, and the only way to stop him will be with an armed citizen with a gun.
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Re: concealed carry

Post by End of the road » Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:18 pm

j.krug wrote:What it Mexican style??
I had to look it up but if I am right it is just tucked into your belt.

Interesting piece on how the name came about: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _n8591504/

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Re: concealed carry

Post by j.krug » Thu Feb 03, 2011 9:37 pm

Thanks for posting that End of the road.
An interesting and informative article.
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Re: concealed carry

Post by AndreTTOW » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:55 pm

Bah...I'm actually quite glad that here in Canada people can't walk around with handguns. Seems to me there are enough idiots that if they had one, they'd probably wind up shooting someone. Killings would go up for sure.

Look at the stats. US has 5.5+ murders per 100 000 population. Canada has 1.9 murders per 100 000 population. Only 1/3 of murders in Canada are gun related. And well over half in US are gun related.

So while I get the freedom part...unfortunately too many stupid people roam the streets...
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