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Re: Federal government could act on gun control as early as Friday

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 6:53 pm
by IronNoggin
The decision to spend $600 million to pay legal and licenced gun owners to hand over their rifles — rifles never used in crimes — means that the Trudeau government has decided to spend almost double on disarming law-abiding gun owners as they will combating the real problem of guns and gangs.

Did I mention that they also banned already illegal rocket launchers plus listed a website and a Facebook chat group on the list of banned guns? The whole thing was clearly put together by people without a clue.

None of this matters to the prime minister, he made it clear with his language and actions that he wants to be seen doing something – whether it helps or not.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/lilley-premiers-tee-off-on-trudeaus-gun-ban

Re: Federal government could act on gun control as early as Friday

Posted: Sat May 02, 2020 9:34 pm
by LongCarbine
I feel for you. I know we are only a few lawmakers away from the same fate. Then the rest will be easy. I hope I'am long gone by then . But I do feel sorry for my kids and grand kids .

Re: Federal government could act on gun control as early as Friday

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:03 pm
by IronNoggin
We often hear how this action somehow represented the will and desires of the majority of Canadians.
Something Trudeau trots out at every single opportunity.
I guess he too is relying on biased online polls to determine this...

Oddly enough, the liberals spent a considerable amount of time and energy finding out what Canadians actually wanted
Only to realize it wasn’t inline with what they wanted to do.
They even went so far as to document that very fact: https://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/2019-rdcng-vlnt-crm-dlg/index-en.aspx
This is something they have now forcibly shoved under the rug, as they continue to point towards any online poll that agrees with their stance instead.

Quite shameful the way this was done.
A minority government, lying continuously to it's citizens, end-running democratic function, and forcing their own Agenda on the public via an Order In Council.
This is NOT the Canada our forefathers fought and died for any more.
And it has made me shameful of my own country as a consequence.

Nog

Re: Federal government could act on gun control as early as Friday

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:11 pm
by IronNoggin
Many of these now banned rifles were previously classed as a Restricted Weapon - the same classification as handguns in Canada.
In order to acquire one, you must pass a rigorous course to get your Restricted Possession & Acquisition License (RPAL).
Then, you are subjected to an intensive background check through the RCMP (CPIC).
That background check is repeated on your behalf DAILY for as long as you hold the RPAL. Yes. Daily.
The rifle (or handgun) in question must be Registered.
So, you apply for said registration to be transferred to you from the current owner / business.
Another background check.
If green-lighted, you are sent a Registration Certificate for said firearm.
Now you need an Authorization To Transport (ATT) the firearm from it's current location to your residence.
Another background check.
To be transported, the firearm must be trigger locked, and further secured in a locking hardshell gun case.
Once at home, the firearm must be secured in an adequate safe as described in related legislation.

Next up, you want to take it to the range.
Another ATT required. Another background check of course.
To the range and back must be in the straightest line possible (as it was previously to bring it home).
No deviations, no stopping to visit uncle Charlie, or grab a candy bar, or whatever.
Straight line, there, straight line back.
Once again, the firearm must be trigger locked, and further secured in a locking hardshell gun case.

VERY stringent. Any non-compliance and you will not only be charged, you will lose the privileged to own ANY firearms, including non-restricted.
The daily background checks are conducted to ensure there is nothing looming that would present cause for concern with you owning any of these firearms.
Reasonable? Yep. Detailed? Yep. Sufficient? Yep.
And something NO criminal is ever likely to embrace.

Again, this is simply NOT about gun or gang violence whatsoever.
It is simply a method for Trudeau to cater to his uneducated urban base, pandering to fears he himself created.
Virtue Signaling at it's finest.
For you see tackling the very real problems of illegal firearm acquisitions, illegal firearm use, mental health issues, and our overly leaky border would require actually coming up with a working plan, and acting decisively towards addressing those goals. Costly. A hell of a lengthy time span required, and not likely to collect the political points he wants in the immediate time-frame desired.

So, so go after the low-hanging fruit.
Target the most rigorously vetted members of society who have well indicated their extreme level of responsibility over the years.
Does it matter that not a single crime or criminal act will ever be effected by this move?
Hell No!
But hey, look, we did something... :thumbdown:

Nog

Re: Federal government could act on gun control as early as Friday

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 3:49 pm
by janesy
The GTA has probably slept well the last couple nights since all the bad guns are gone :crazy:

Re: Federal government could act on gun control as early as Friday

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 4:31 pm
by AJ01
I really feel for you guys! We have our liberals here in the States, and if given the chance they would no doubt try to enact the same laws here.
I'm blessed to live in Texas. :thumbup: This is an actual billboard located in the Texas panhandle. Enough said...
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May your struggles NOT be in vain!!!
Fight the Good Fight!!!

Andy

Re: Federal government could act on gun control as early as Friday

Posted: Sun May 03, 2020 6:52 pm
by IronNoggin
A Retired Mountie’s Perspective Liberals Gun Control

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSlwaFicJCH8k7RewHrVMLqom9cZEReNSqkCcRnKjuuU1agpi7dw6m6JGvUb2vsAg/pub