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Post by pphoenix »

New harness arrived today, bought it at canadianextreme.com. Paid $40 canadian, and that included taxes and shipping :D That's a deal at least for me. They are on clearance. only took 4 days to arrive.

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http://canadianextreme.com/gorilla%20stands.htm
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The safety belts / harness's are a far cry from my homemade seat belt affair I made in the late 70"s and the plain belt style I used for years. Just glad I never had to try one out.
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Just glad I never had to try one out.
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Which brings a question to mind:
Every year we read about some unfortunate hunter being killed because of a belt or harness. It's my understanding that if you are suspended for a long period it can cause death? I know the proper plan is to be sure you can get back in the stand if you fall, but who wants to do a test fall to find out? I sure don't! The harness can prevent injury, but it can also kill you. Like playing with a double edged sword. I have a good harness, but find myself wearing it only if I think there might be a chance of a fall causing serious injury. If I set a 10 or 15' ladder stand where there is only small weeds and underbrush (no huge rocks or logs) I usually don't wear the harness anymore. I feel secure climbing the ladder of the stand, and the stand itself is very solid & stable. I use a quality ratchet strap + a chain & padlock to secure it to the tree. The chain & padlock is both theft prevention, and a backup if the ratchet strap should break.
If I'm climbing tree steps or a climbing stick to a hang-on type stand I rig a line from above the stand to the ground and use a prussic knot attachment to a full body harness so I'm attached all the way up & down.
If I use a climbing type stand I use a rope around the tree with a prussic knot attachment so I can be attached for the entire climb.
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Post by Partikle »

Hey Wabi,

I'm under the impression that most people who sufficate are not wearing a full body harness, but the simple old style harness where the strap goes around your chest under your arms. I think you would be able to sit in a full body harness for hours.

The trophyline tree harness for hunting is basically a fancy harness is it not?

ie. http://www.trophylineusa.com/saddle.htm

I guess you can always keep a knife with you and cut yourself loose if you have to. At least then you will not fall on your head.
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If they are designed anything like a fall arrest harness for construction, and they look like it, then most of the pressure is on the leg straps. Like a fancy swing. I probably should have one. I have been guilty of closing my eyes in the stand. :oops:
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I'm under the impression that most people who sufficate are not wearing a full body harness, but the simple old style harness where the strap goes around your chest under your arms. I think you would be able to sit in a full body harness for hours.
It might have been one of those online tall tales, but I read of a guy in a full body harness being killed. Something about the lack of blood circulation when you are suspended and fairly immobile. I believe they said your blood tends to pool in the lower extremities, and unconsciousness results, which soon leads to death.
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Post by GREY OWL »

That's correct Wabi, I can't remember which magazine I read that in, but being suspended in a body harness during long periods of time, can eventually kill you, especially if your over weight. :roll: :roll:

Should always carry a knife on your person, just in case you fall out of the tree in a awkward position. A broken leg, or strangulation................

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Post by Tom »

wabi no matter what saftey precaution you take, you can still lose your life in certain situations, but in general if your wearing these full body harnesses you will have a HUGE chance to survive.

Some full body harnesses are much better then others. Some are just like ecoaster mentioned, it is just like sitting in a sling while others bind and put pressure on your leg muscles. All that I have seen also have a shock asorber of some kind built into the restraning strap. This is to lessen the shock of a sudden stop of a fall. These are also a one time happening, that is once used and become expanded, then they need to be replaced.

I have seen a picture of someone that fell out of a tree, onto level ground with no brush under them. He broke his leg in 3 places with a piece of bone sticking out of the leg and lots of bleeding. Lucky for him that his hunting partner heard him either fall or the scream, cam and stopped the bleeding then got help for him.

Remember ........ ACCIDENTS are accidents because they are not expected to happen. Always wear your full body saftey harness.

Falling from a treestand will not hurt you, it is usually the sudden stop that causes the inguries.
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Post by Tom »

I know that there is a fall device on the market but I can't seem to find it right now. the link below is one simular but it is not it.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templ ... 4887&Nty=1

The one I was looking for had a lever which you pulled and it would lower you slowly to the ground if you had fallen after you stopped in the fall. The above link has a very nice setup as well, but I do not think that you could be lowered by it.

Does anyone know of the device that I am speaking of.
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Post by Farmer »

Most of the new harnesses have a razor gizmo in the shoulder strap to cut yourself free from the harness.

A few that I have also have a shock absorber built in, just like the ones used in industry and construction. It amounts to a good number of folds sewn together, the sewing ripping in a controlled manner playing out slack when you fall.

The belts of yesterday were like the belt used to hold up your pants. an article I read in a bow mag years ago told about the amount of force your internal organs took in a fall because the force was not spread across the whole body. The other problem was you could fall thru the belt ( too loose or to skinny ) The belt could come up around your chest and suffocate you in a minute or so . Or if you had a bit of a tank up front it will cause you to do a nose dive as you would be over centered throwing you off balance.

just remembered reading an article in a hunting magazine or newspaper about a father and son hunting. The son did not show up at the assigned meeting time and the father went to look for him at his stand. The son had fell; hissafety belt got around the sons chest suffocating him. The article said that the son was kicking so violently to get free that he had kicked his shoes off of his feet.

We tend to take a few more chances with our safety while hunting, and that is where we end up getting hurt. We over look things that could cause us major trouble. A friend had a couple stands up in a fence row. Right under the stand was part of an old steel fence post. Ifhe ever feel climbing into the stand he could have impaled himself on it.:shock: His other stand had small trees and bushes under it that he cut leaving about 12 inches of the stumps that would have done the same thing.

It is very important to use our safety equipment and more importantly to use it correctly. :shock:
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Post by taxman »

im kind of old school. i currently use a tree hopper belt for both placing stands and as a safety belt. ive had the same belt for at least 10 years and could not find another(exactly) like the one i have. yesterday, i saw a ad for treehopper belts on bowhuntertv i believe. it basically has the chinese system for adjusting them .
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Post by ch312 »

ive taken my fall and arrest course and the instructors said that you dont have very long to get out of the harness before circulation begins to get cutoff. it was less than an hour i know that.
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Post by chris4570 »

ecoaster wrote:I probably should have one. I have been guilty of closing my eyes in the stand. :oops:
I've caught myself dosing off on a few occasions as well. And like you I don't wear a safety harness, even though I have one. I know, stupid. I should start wearing one.
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