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Pydpiper
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Post by Pydpiper »

How about some visuals. :D

Here is a small dollar store level on my riser, the bow is supported by odd old rags and left alone once the level is "level".

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Then I take a bigger level and put it at a distance (actual distance is irrelevant).. This is where some guys align to the vertical line with a string, probably easier.

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Then I look through the scope knowing the bow is level and turn the scope until my crosshairs are even with the distant level.

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Then, more times than not, I use my 20 yard pin instead of the 30 yard pin and drive an arrow clean through my level.. :roll: :D I have shot that poor level more times than it deserves.

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When it is all done you can do this at 50 yards, every time. (this was all done from bench shooting of course)

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I have every step on film, just holler if you need clarification on anything. It is a terribly easy process but in writing it can seem a bit tedious..
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Post by mercyfulfate »

Awesome guide, thankyou!
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Post by Cossack »

Plumbbob, level...?
Just set the x bow in a vise and focus on a know horizontal surface with reticule lateral line. There are several reticule levelers on the market that are cheap and do the job. I use them for my gun work. Unless the reticule is way sideways in a bow it's no big deal.
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Post by Normous »

Cossack wrote:Plumbbob, level...?
Just set the x bow in a vise and focus on a know horizontal surface with reticule lateral line. There are several reticule levelers on the market that are cheap and do the job. I use them for my gun work. Unless the reticule is way sideways in a bow it's no big deal.
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I'm really not sure how much accuracy you extract or expect from your firearms but any reticle that is just alittle bit off is a BIG deal. One should strive to position the reticle perfectly plumb, or else inaccuracy will result.
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Post by Cossack »

That's very interesting, enormous, since few of us hold a firearm exactly plumb, esp when we shoot offhand. No doubt a reticule being off vertical makes a difference at long ranges. We're talking about FEET with crossbows rather than hundreds of yards tho.
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Post by mercyfulfate »

I just followed Pydpiper's guide on setting up the scope and my accuracy at longer distances was GREATLY improved, shooting braced and freehand. Thanks a lot :)
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mercyfulfate wrote:I just followed Pydpiper's guide on setting up the scope and my accuracy at longer distances was GREATLY improved, shooting braced and freehand. Thanks a lot :)
Happy to hear it helped. :D
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Post by Pydpiper »

Cossack, you are a man who is very set in his ways, and I can appreciate that. A slight canting in a rifle/gun scope is a mistake no matter how you look at it, but far more forgiving with a rifle than a canting in a bow scope.
With a bow there is a tremendous arc to the arrows flight, in perfect conditions that arc should follow the vertical crosshair, exactly. The center of the scope will always be the center, meaning even if the scope sat and spun freely in its mounts the crosshairs will always be in the center. With a bow you are relying on that vertical line to track the natural gravitational drop of the arrow, a slight canting will result in several inches (or more) of difference at 40-50 yards. Using my third picture as an example, if that scope were to twist slightly left or right the lower vertical crosshair (which is paramount in distant shots) would sway dramatically left or right. The arrow doesn't follow the scope, it follows gravity, the arrow is going to drop exactly plumb to the ground, why would you not want your scope to reflect that?

Cossack wrote:That's very interesting, enormous, since few of us hold a firearm exactly plumb, esp when we shoot offhand. No doubt a reticule being off vertical makes a difference at long ranges. We're talking about FEET with crossbows rather than hundreds of yards tho.
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Post by mercyfulfate »

Maybe he doesn't want to be buying more bolts :wink:
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Post by bbbwb »

Pydpiper:
You have become an expert on the sighting in of the lumizone scope. The number of times that you have advised all of us on the procedure shows the patience you possess to go over and over the method. Speaking from experience, you gave me the outline and it works very,very, well. I can attest to the fact that once it is completed, the shots are great ---- I took a deer this fall at 40 yards with no trouble at all -- a shot that I would never have attempted before.
The pictures that you have shown above are reminiscent of what I did with super results.
Thanks for the help.
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Post by camo jack »

I had a lot of qwestions about the Lumi zone, I read all the post last night and got off work in time to take a few shots it took about 30 min to sight it in, I had allready mounted it. It shoots a lot better than the truglow I had. Just wanted to ask about the screw on the yardage ring is it a lock screw? And thanks everyone for all the really good info..
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Post by philipmaurice »

Thank-you gentlemen for the precious advise.

Phil :wink:
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Post by hotburn »

Dave does good on the scope set up stuff. BTW, thats a pretty nice back stop you have set up there, looks good.
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