Pa Archers Need Your Help!

bobby2bears · Post by **bobby2bears** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:06 pm

As some of you know Pa.'s recent full inclusion vote is to be "revisited" next week. The ringleader is a new Commissioner who for one reason or another does not think crossbows belong in archery season. He has stated that the mail and email he gets is 4 or 5 to 1 AGAINST full inclusion. Even though all the rest of the commissioners and the PGC say it is about 50/50. ( I think I smell a rat) I thought maybe you folks would help us even that out a little by sending him a note saying that crossbows are not the "Devils TooL".

Commissioner Ronald Weaner email: rweaner@superpa.net

Thanks,
Bob

Horizontal Hunter · Post by **Horizontal Hunter** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:44 pm

The fact that they are even considering this is ridiculous. I sent an email. I hope it helps.

Bob

Limbs and Sticks · Post by **Limbs and Sticks** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:50 pm

DITTO

Wes

mikej · Post by **mikej** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:00 pm

e mail sent, i'm sure we'll have a few trolls pop in for a visit within the next few days

Woody Williams · Post by **Woody Williams** » Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:13 pm

Commissioner Weaner is UBP's last great hope so they are bombarding him with emails..

Someone with a little common sense needs to take him aside and explain to him that it is over and that people have been told that they cana hunt with crossbows this entire archery season AND they have bought crossbows..

If he rams this through he will have a bunch of whizzed off PA sportsmen/women/kids.

dick195252 · Post by **dick195252** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:40 am

Just sent an e-mail out. Hope it helps

one shot scott · Post by **one shot scott** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:55 pm

Email sent. I hope this canadian boy can help.

Woody Williams · Post by **Woody Williams** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 5:42 pm

bstout wrote:Thanks for your input. Ron Weaner - PGC Commissioner

Canned response..

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 7:04 pm

Mr Weaner,
I'm sure you are getting flooded with email about your efforts to limit crossbow inclusion in archery season.
I live in Ohio and may hunt in your state in the future if laws and economic conditions permit.
What I would like you to know is that crossbows ARE archery! We have had full inclusion of crossbows as legal archery equipment for decades here in Ohio.
Our deer herd is growing, and our hunter ranks are shrinking. It's a sad fact that today's lifestyles tend to be leading many people away from outdoor activities.
The crossbow is no more accurate, long range, or deadly than many modern compound bows! What it does do is allow physically limited individuals, such as youngsters
and seniors to participate in archery. I'm aging and restricted on my ability to shoot bows because of bone spurs in my shoulder. Here in Ohio it was simply a matter of
buying a crossbow to continue to enjoy hunting in archery season. I would think it would be in the best interest of your state's game department to allow hunters to have
the same freedom of choice when it comes to picking a bow. If hunters, and perspective hunters, can pick a bow that will allow them an equal chance of becoming a
successful hunter they just might be more inclined to spend their dollars on licenses, and help control deer populations.
I would hope you would look at all the facts, even take a look at Ohio's inclusion of crossbows as legal archery equipment and the positive results, and base your
opinions/decisions on fact, not simply on opinion.

Crossbows are simply another form of archery equipment! The arrows from a crossbow are no more deadly than the arrows from any other bow. All a crossbow does
is to allow the bow to be drawn (with the help of a mechanical aid when necessary) and held in a drawn position for a longer time than most other bows, which means
many physically limited/impaired people can often shoot one effectively. Healthy individuals can also use a crossbow, and some people familiar with firearms may learn
to shoot a crossbow more easily than other types of bows, therefore full inclusion of crossbows as legal archery equipment may lead to those individuals trying a new
method of hunting. This can mean more hunters for your state in the future, and I'm sure that's a welcome idea!

Thank you,
Mike Cooper

G Money · Post by **G Money** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:23 pm

I am tired of this issue and I'm not giving this guy the satisfaction.

We won!
He's a bit late...they'd have to print new rule books.

Limbs and Sticks · Post by **Limbs and Sticks** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:34 pm

Do you have a rule book yet?

Wes

G Money · Post by **G Money** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 8:47 pm

Yes.
Full inclusion printed through and through. Magnifying scopes and red dots permissible.
I know what you're saying, though...last year I believe they amended the book (without reprinting it) for the "no orange" requirement for spring gobbler season. I think the book still said we needed orange, but we actually did not. A late change.

So it goes like this:
"Well, geeze Mr. Weiner...my book says crossbows are legal during the rut. You show me -in the rule book- where it says I can't hunt November with my crossbow."
lol

Limbs and Sticks · Post by **Limbs and Sticks** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:04 pm

Would cost a lot of $$$ to print new ones, unless they do what's been done here in VA. put something in the newspaper while your asleep

Wes

huntone · Post by **huntone** » Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:10 pm

e-mail sent

bobby2bears · Post by **bobby2bears** » Fri Jul 03, 2009 11:51 am

To all of you that took the time to send out email. I don't know if it will do any good or not, but it did ruffle the feathers of several verticle guys on one of the other forums I am on.

Examples: "How can you ask outsiders for help?"
"Do you know how many people that wrote emails are from Pennsylvania? Just one Bobby-you"

Again I thank you. And there is still time to drop a line if you can.

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