Arrow turning on impact.....Help?

Deputydog · Post by **Deputydog** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:23 am

Last season I purchased the Exomax, Easton firebolts and wasp broadheads. Shoots great. However, both deer I killed last season were 15 yards broadside and I shot both just behing the shoulder(Perfect shot). On the doe I took the arrow turned and exited the rear ponch just before the hams. The eight pointer I took the arrow turned and exited the front right soulder. Any suggestions???????

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:48 am

sumpin ain't right! if yer arrows spin right and sighted in. then the deer must be in the act of moving to make BH & arrow change course in the ribcage. leg or spine may deflect arrow some

Cossack · Post by **Cossack** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:17 pm

If they hit where you aim - and pass through - I wouldn't worry. Internal deflection is largely caused by obstruction to the path of penetration.

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:18 pm

Just a wild guess, but check the balance point (foc) on your arrows.
I'm thinking if they are too heavy in the rear they might deflect like that when the point hits???????????
If they have a very low foc a heavier broadhead might cure the problem.

Rich · Post by **Rich** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:20 pm

I use Luminoks on my GT II's tipped with Muzzy 100 4-Blades and have watched the Luminok kick 6-10 inches left or right of my point of impact. It made me think I had a bad hit. The exit was not directly in line with the entrance either. I think the bolts were being deflected by bones.

Rich

crazyfarmer · Post by **crazyfarmer** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 3:49 pm

simple bone deflection.. either that or the deer is moving during the shot?

could be the angle of the hit also...

wabi · Post by **wabi** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 4:14 pm

Since it's slow on here I might as well start a discussion.

I've been deer hunting with an Excalibur for about 10 years now. I've used carbon & aluminum arrows and fixed & mechanical broadheads. I've shot 2 or 3 deer most of those years.
I've never had an arrow deflect off the ribs! In one side & straight through in every case.
Most of those shots have been broadside or very slightly quartering (probably a 30º angle maximum) and the arrow has blown through ribs like they weren't even there.

Deputydog said:

both deer I killed last season were 15 yards broadside and I shot both just behing the shoulder(Perfect shot)

If that is correct I don't think deflecting off bone would be the cause. Sounds more to me like an arrow problem.

I might add that I have used a Vixen, and Exocet (175#), and a Phoenix for all my deer hunting. I wouldn't think the extra velocity from the Exomax would cause the arrow to deflect off ribs, but I have no experience there, so I could be wrong.

vixenmaster · Post by **vixenmaster** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 7:45 pm

like wabi i avg 2-5 deer a yr. using same 3 models of Excals no deflection with the arrows i have used

taureau noir · Post by **taureau noir** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 8:05 pm

Like wabi said its a FOC problem ,the rear end of the arrow push the arrow sideway on impact.Heavier broadhead or brass insert may cure the problem.
Taureau noir

crazyfarmer · Post by **crazyfarmer** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 9:57 pm

the firebolts with a 100grain head will probably have a 13-14% FOC... not the best but its good

something in the 16-18% line as said might help you.. it would be more front heavy;)

mikej · Post by **mikej** » Fri Aug 21, 2009 10:45 pm

i really can't see it being deflected by ribs , any deer i have shot has blown through the rips like they were made of jello. is it possible you hit the shoulderblade ?

awshucks · Post by **awshucks** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:36 am

Have shot a few hogs and deer both w/ Emax, GT L II's brass inserts and 100 gr slick magnums. The arrows never even veered after going thru the animals, so another vote for arrow problem. Good Luck!

Cossack · Post by **Cossack** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:46 am

I'm mindful that this is a sample of two. Best advice: go shoot at least 10 and see if the 'problem' persists.

Sounds to me like tha folks complaining about bullet failure when a bullet 'mushrooms' too much, leaving a large exit hole...in a very dead animal. Dead is dead, right?

skamaniac · Post by **skamaniac** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:04 pm

Carbon Firebolts from Excalibur with a 100 gr target head have an FOC of 8.7% and a 150 gr target head is 14.5%. I don't have any info on 125 gr heads.

Deputydog · Post by **Deputydog** » Sat Aug 22, 2009 1:58 pm

Thanks guys for the info. When shooting the targets I see no problem, they do great. It's just on the two kills last year I did get complete pass throughs, but they just turned once they made contact. Cossack, your right Dead is Dead. Ill try again next month when the season opens. Thanks for the advice everyone. Deputydog

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