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Mike P
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Post by Mike P »

bstout wrote:Mike, you're not dealing with much of an angle with a shooting distance of 25 yards or more, especially if you're hunting over level terrain.

No offense, Mike but many flat landers don't have to deal with this very often or at least not to the same extent as hill folks.

There's very little level ground around here that doesn't have crops growing on it. Almost all of our woods are located in extremely uneven, non-tillable terrain. We get some nasty steep downward shots into deep ravines.
OK, I was a flat lander when I lived in Northern Illinois, I admit that. Every time I went hunting or fishing up around Eagle River all you cheesheads would call me that, lol. :lol:

I was even more of a flat lander when I lived in Kansas. It was like a billiard table.

But I grew up in the "Hill Country" of Texas and we sure had some ups and downs.

Where I live now bstout is very hilly. The glaciers really did a number here in southwestern Ohio. I hunt very little level ground. Level ground here is also utilized for crop fields just like where you are. You might say I am in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains. Our hollows around here run deep and steep.

Now that that's out of the way, here is what I think. :lol:

I do not shoot beyond thirty yards. I don't think there is much of an issue of hold low or hold high within that range regardless of the terrain. If there is, I am not a good enough shot that it matters as I think the difference either high or low is small enough that my poor shooting is more of a concern then the trigonometry of the shot.

I think the answer to this entire discussion is to shoot short distances. So that's my story and I am stickin to it.

That is until awshucks weighs in and splains it to me.

He can really cipher.:D :D :D
Mike P
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Post by Mike P »

bstout wrote: The age old problem of, "You can take a horse to water but...you can't drowned him! :wink: :D
Thats why I have an ATV.

You can shoot them.

Just ask shucks.
XCaddis
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Post by XCaddis »

awshucks wrote:
.settled the cross hair on the shoulder and shot...bolt sailed right over its back!
My guess, and it's just that, is you got 'string jumped.' Actually, 'string ducked' is more like it.

My experiences have led me to believe that from 10-20 yds, there's about 2" diff in poi, well w/in 'minute of deer' accuracy'
If the bow is shooting 300+ at 10 yards, I can't see the deer jumping the string...no way it is going to react fast enough....unless it was a coincidental movement

My 2 cents...
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Shotnbeer
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Post by Shotnbeer »

funny this has come up. After hunting i was unloading, with a rest, and took a shot at a friends target. foot high and foot to the right. while it ticked me off I was glad I didn't have a shot at a deer. The next day I shot again in the back yard to see what the heck was going on. All 5 shots dead on. Go figure.
Hoss
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Post by Hoss »

Mike P wrote:
bstout wrote: The age old problem of, "You can take a horse to water but...you can't drowned him! :wink: :D
Thats why I have an ATV.

You can shoot them.

Just ask shucks.
I shot mine on accident...dont ask..and elevation does have a an effect on your trajectory like explained..whats wierd is shooting up or down at the same angles presents the same degree of change at or to a point.
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dick195252
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Post by dick195252 »

Mike P and I Totally agree on this one. I have very Little POI difference from my treestand and level ground from 5 yards out to 20 yards. I allso Practice from my treestand and Know Exactly where my POI is to all Shooting lanes from the Stand. I need to make it all Simple so I do not have to think too much when the Shot Opportunity Arrives {Never been Accused of being the Sharpest Knife in the drawer :lol: :lol: }
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Lone Wolf
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Post by Lone Wolf »

Well got a chance to shot again tonight and everything went perfect! Shot a nice doe at 18 yards with a Rage 2-blade and the deer went 20 yards stopped...did a back flip and was stone cold dead in less than 45 seconds! Used the 10 yard chevron right on the heart this time...The Rage left a 4" cut going in and out..
peter p
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Post by peter p »

Way to go.
Congrats.
Did the arrow hit the heart or did it hit higher?
Lone Wolf
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Post by Lone Wolf »

Sliced the heart just about in 2 pieces
peter p
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Post by peter p »

So if the 10 yard chevron is dead on at 18 yards, what's the main cross hair set at?
Lone Wolf
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Post by Lone Wolf »

The main cross hair is sighted in at 23 yards
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