Can anyone ID this snake?

[groundpounder]

that is an eastern milk snake, i used to breed them..........bob

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[sumner4991]

that is an eastern milk snake, i used to breed them..........bob

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Too much information . . .

Autumn Milk Snake . . .

[Brampton Mike]

It looks alive too me...BOOM BOOM...there now i can identify it...it's a DEAD snake!

[bob1961]

groundpounder , sumner you misread what i said ....i used to breed them, not breed "with" them....you guys crack me up ...........bob

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[TB]

Red Rat snake is another name for corn snake. Corn snake comes from when farmers had outdoor corn cribs and rats and mice would be in the corn cribs. The rat snakes would be there to feed on the rats. As planter said look at the distinct marking on the top of the head

[bob1961]

I just pulled it from someones basement, not sure if it is an escaped pet or a snake native to Here, south west Ontario.
About a foot long, pinky size in diameter. Didn't strike when I grabbed it, but wound around me pretty darn quick.
Thanks!

here is one of my eastern milk's see how it is the same as the one pictured....





here is a beter pic of a milk snake....



here is a corn snake....



black rat snake baby....



see how they all look alike but are not the same, the rats snakes have a smaller neck compaired to milk's....look at the color of the milk snake i have then the OP pic which is a bit darker picture though it looks like..........bob

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[Brenjen]

I trust a breeder more than my own internet experience with milk snakes but the color seems to be the one thing you can't go by. I've seen & handled corn snakes that look exactly like the one pictured. I can't see the head well enough to judge that, but the color of both snakes seem to vary greatly. With today's reptile market a corn snake could turn up anywhere so location is irrelevant.(I've seen & handled tons of corn snakes in my day but I've only seen pictures of the milk snake)

edit- if you notice the milk snake doesn't seem to have the same black outline on the spots as the corn snake & to my earlier question...IS the milk snake a constrictor too?

The head would definitely seem to be the key in identification.

[Limbs and Sticks]

edit- if you notice the milk snake doesn't seem to have the same black outline on the spots as the corn snake & to my earlier question...IS the milk snake a constrictor too?

I'm sure if no fangs it will choke you to death

Wes

[carvedtip]

Here is an easy way to determine if a snake is a milk snake or a corn snake.

Put one milk snake and one corn snake in a terrarium together.

Leave both together overnight.

In the morning there will only be one snake in terrarium. And it will be a lot fatter then when you left it.

The one left is the milk snake.

[chris4570]

Here is an easy way to determine if a snake is a milk snake or a corn snake.

Put one milk snake and one corn snake in a terrarium together.

Leave both together overnight.

In the morning there will only be one snake in terrarium. And it will be a lot fatter then when you left it.

The one left is the milk snake.

Very true.

I kept, for one night, a pair of juvenile milk snakes. Come morning I only had one FAT one remaining. I knew there was a chance of cannibilism.

Yes milk snakes are constrictors. They belong to the same family as king snakes (lampropeltis). They are very good at what they do.

As bob said look at the head/neck of the two. The head of a milksnake is almost the same size as the neck. The cross section of the two are also different. Also the scales on a milk snake are always smooth whereas a corn snakes scales may be slightly keeled giving them a rougher look/texture.

Although I have never bred either of them I do have experience with both. I worked for two years at an exotic pet store. We had a hundred + different species of snakes. Corns, milks, king, gopher, ball pythons, burmese, retics, anacondas, etc, etc. If it was non-venomous and legal we had it, and often in numbers.

[Shotnbeer]

Cobra

[shooter313]

I have two of them under my house in Western NY near Niagara Falls. I don't think it is native to this area either. I had to buy my two from a kid down the road that keeps them for pets.
I bought them for mouse control as I have a corn field and a open hay field next to where I live. Since I got my snakes 3 years ago I have had ZERO mouse problems!! They do tend to curl up next to me when I am in the crawl space working on something. Took a while for them to warm up to me, but they finally did.

[bob1961]

& to my earlier question...IS the milk snake a constrictor too?

yes they are, at least the ones i had squeezed there mice before eating them...........bob

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[ch312]

I trust a breeder more than my own internet experience with milk snakes but the color seems to be the one thing you can't go by. I've seen & handled corn snakes that look exactly like the one pictured. I can't see the head well enough to judge that, but the color of both snakes seem to vary greatly. With today's reptile market a corn snake could turn up anywhere so location is irrelevant.(I've seen & handled tons of corn snakes in my day but I've only seen pictures of the milk snake)

edit- if you notice the milk snake doesn't seem to have the same black outline on the spots as the corn snake & to my earlier question...IS the milk snake a constrictor too?

The head would definitely seem to be the key in identification.

ive handled many of each kind of snake and the corn snake is much different in person when you see the head. was actually playing with a milk snake last week and they are quite common in sw ontario when you are looking for them. dont really see too many when you are just walking around.

yes, they are constrictors. its the only way for non venomous snakes to eat little critters...

now, im off to feed my ball python some mice

[Helmut]

had one in my yard sunning last year. He actually made like a rattle snake but did not stike. Was told it is a rat snake at the time.