Arrows testers needed - this is a very old thread

[Masboy]

I,ll get a piece of cardboard that the holes show up good in an shoot all six arrows an each one shot three times with each of the three vanes as the cock vane at the same bull . a different bull for each arrow and mark each shot with what vane. then I will shoot the six arrows at the same bull mixing up the cock vane an see how they do as a group. it,s hard to get good reliable results unless you have calm perfect conditions. most of my shooting has been done with some kind of wind. but I will try my best to get this done on a calm day I hope!!!!!!! then mabey with some heavier like 125 gr tips. the wind seems to blow every day here.

[Boo]

Frank, is there anything else you can think of to give the BEAs a good shake down? Any idea why they should be better in a crosswind? That seems strange!

[Masboy]

I have always had better luck in the wind with heavier arrows for drift an groups. I think going to a 125 gr tip may help in the wind ? I don,t know anything for sure because shooting conditions are always changing and alot of times while your shooting it,s changing ??????

[Masboy]

I have always had better luck in the wind with heavier arrows for drift an groups. I think going to a 125 gr tip may help in the wind ? I don,t know anything for sure because shooting conditions are always changing and alot of times while your shooting it,s changing ?????? One of the hardest things I ever do is go out on different days and hit the exact same place with the same great shooting arrow for poi.

[Hester0305]

Hester, did you shoot your GTIIs to 50 yards to compare them to the BEAs?

Don I didn't get a chance today to shoot the Gold tips out to 50 yards to compare. I'll try this weekend because its usually dark when I get home from work during the week.

[Boo]

There appears to be 3 individuals that have not received their arrows. Could they please contact me by email to confirm that the arrows have not arrived?

[Masboy]

made a bunch of targets up an you can see the holes much better. made a string and bored so shot in the wind today 5-10 right to left and they were hitting 3-4 inchs to the left so moved my rifle scope 30 clicks to right to get them where they are now.as you can see top target I shot cock vane on spine mark and middle left of the cock vane as cock an bottom right vane of cock. I shot all six arrows at the same bull with the same cock vane down. I don,t half way understand myself but that,s the best I can do with my brain! I have a bunch of targets ready if it ever calms down. all shot at 50yds in a side wind with gust at times.

[Hester0305]

Masboy I really like that first group they're pretty tight for 6 arrows at that distance. Keep up that good shooting.

[robertyb]

I also shot 50 yards. 4 arrows per set cause I am still down from being sick. Sun came out so I had to get out for a while. I started on Boo's markers and twisted to next vane to right on each set. wind was 5-10 mph pretty much in my face. Still have not touched scope settings since receiving the arrows. It is still set for the factory Firebolts.

Setup from shooting;


The target at 50 yards:


Group 1 with Boo's spine set: Aim point top middle dot on all.


Group 2:


Group 3:


Grazed the edge on one nock on the 2nd group. This was my first attempt shooting my Excal at 50 yards.

And by the way. That arrow with the orange vanes is my previous flyer.

[Boo]

Robert, I don't think that turkeys are going to be safe this spring with you and that bow in the woods!

[Masboy]

cold out this morning but calm an shot at 50yds with BEA an 100gr tips. no wind for bottom targets.shot all arrows at each bull with the same vane as the cock then turned cock vane and shot different bulls. not a whole lot of difference except number 4 arrow that had a problem when I shot it later.then I did the same changing to 125gr tips and about the same but a little bigger groups. then the wind picked up an I was in a shooting mood so turned my string around and shot the top six targets with the cock vane on the spine mark for all shooting and shot each arrow 3 times an number 4 had a problem again so I will have to check the vanes out it might be loose or have a set in it. from my shooting I think there,s not a lot of difference when there shot when it,s calm but when it,s windy the ones shot on the spine mark seem to do much better to me. I have arrows that shoot great groups when it,s calm an not so good in the wind and others that shoot great in both??? I have a lot to learn about arrows an why some are deadly accurate in all conditions an some not????

[flightattendant100]

I have had a little delay posting results since I can shoot 50yrds only on weekends at the deer lease.Weekend before last I set up to shoot and it didnt take long to figure out that my old eyes,50yrds distance, a 4x scope and a target that is mustard yellow, black, and red dont work so well.I installed a Redfield 2x-7x scope to get a little more magnification and went at it again this past weekend.I shot a "baseline" target at 20 yrds, and all seems well.
Then I moved back to 30yrds. and got two groups going. I have three arrows that group well together and the other two group well together but not in same group as first three.
I moved back to 50 yrds and shot several targets with the results pretty much the same, three in a group and two in a group
I had fletched all arrows with the cock vane at Boo's mark, and have shot all so far with that vane as the cock vane(down) I marked the arrows so as to know which were the two that grouped in a different place and will try turning them this weekend and see if that makes any difference.
So far my conclusions are 50 yrds. is a LONG WAY!!!! and more magnification is a good thing.I am also curious as to whether a crossbow, with all the viberation at the shot, is affected accuracy wise by being in a hard rest or if they may shoot better with some sort of bag type rest to cushion or disperse the viberation.Just a thought and something else to play with.
I'm sorry that the pics are turned,dont have a clue as to why. and I intend to shoot some firebolts and gtII's to compare this to.
I have some tragic news to report as well.........My first shot at 50 yrds..... Mr Arrow #6 met Mr. Rock ,just shy of the target( told you it is a long ways). While Mr Arrow #6 fought a valiant fight, in the end Mr. rock was the victor, and Mr Arrow #6 was kia.( taps in background)

[robertyb]

How do you get you targets to sit sideways like that??
50 yards is a far poke no doubt.
Good shooting. Rotate those vanes. Most of mine have shot best at long range with the vane to the LEFT of Boos mark as cock vane. All shot fine at 20-30.

[Masboy]

I think your right about the rest from all my shooting. I definitely shoot a different poi from a bench rest than I do offhand or sitting shooting over my knee holding the bow . I have found a lot of arrows that shoot off from others from the bench that do not when shot resting my arm on me knee. when sighting in for hunting I never use the bench!!!!!!!!!

[Boo]

A firm padded rest is what you want to shoot off of. A hard rest will give you erratic points of impact. My favorite shooting bags are filled with corn cob polishing media. They give 100% contact at the forearm and some adjustablity at the rear by squeezing the rear bag. The forearm bag is the most important because the wide forearm offers more differing resting points to recoil from.