extra tag farse

RichardS · Post by **RichardS** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:18 am

Digger,
If you took the time to read any of my posts you may find out that I thought the system was Fair!

I pointed out I felt it WAS FAIR because we were offered discounted tags.

I would not find it fair if the neighbour beside me gets a preference in tags over a friend of mine in toronto just because his trailer happens to be on 60 acres.

Farmers need compensation for crop destruction and that is why we have crop insurance.

We loose some un-insurable crops to deer, that is why we get a break on a deer tag.

Tag draws should be equal to residents

By the way:

What makes farmers/landowners any superior to me getting an extra tag for a deer, not much as far as I'm concerned.

Good we agree on something.

By the way both my parents are retired police officers from toronto as well.

Digger · Post by **Digger** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:55 am

RichardS

If I misread any your posts, I apologize.

Digger

Digger · Post by **Digger** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 1:04 pm

RichardS

If I misread any your posts, I apologize.

Digger

RichardS · Post by **RichardS** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 5:52 pm

No problem!

Im over it.....well over it

Red Label. · Post by **Red Label.** » Sun Sep 05, 2004 9:11 pm

Whiners

cdngunner.... · Post by **cdngunner....** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:06 am

ooooouuuuuu!

Good one Red Lable./Ruger

Your inteligence shines like a bright becon for everyone!

Ontario Bow Hunter · Post by **Ontario Bow Hunter** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:41 am

My only thought on this is residents of the WMU should have first crack at tags and then anyone outside of the WMU can have second crack. But either way I couldn't care less since the land I own, I really don't own because in Canada, the Gov can come along and take it from me whenever they want!!!!

By the way the 200 acres of land I own is bush property, not a farm.

maple · Post by **maple** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:10 pm

Today I heard that due to our NAFTA (North American Free Trade) agreement with the omnipotent US of A, we will probably loose our control over harvesting anyhow. They are claiming they should have many of the same hunting rights in Canada that we do. That goes for Canadian guided bear, some native rights, and other hunting regulations we thought we controlled.

Go figure where they think this stuff up.

Maple

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:34 pm

Sorry, but who is "they"? The Americans?

Woodsman · Post by **Woodsman** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 7:42 am

I just want to clarify a statement I made regarding farmers. I was lamb basted in a PM sent to me on this issue by RichardS and feel that I need to respond. I am not implying "all farmers" are anything. I'm sure that the vast majority of farmers out there are decent folk. I was talking about my own personal frustration of trying to find a spot to hunt in a particular area with certain farmers of this region. (This was fresh in my mind as it happened over this past weekend.) The whole area is "sewn up" and organised to gouge hunters that want to hunt in this particular area. These particular individuals are the last people I would like to see compensated for crop damage or see get first wack at tags.

If I insulted anybody(i.e. farmers, landowners, etc.) by painting everybody with the same brush, I apologise.

I would have responded earlier, but it took me a long time to get over the foul language, racial slurs, and insults I received in my PM. Somewhere in there, there was a message which I finally managed to acknowledge.

I hope this puts things right.

Ontario Bow Hunter · Post by **Ontario Bow Hunter** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:53 pm

Pete, that is the same problem in WMU 63a, and 63b. Lost of farmers claiming crop damage, want compensation, but won't let hunters in, but still go out and slaughter hundreds of deer illeagally to "protect thier crops"!

Ontario Bow Hunter · Post by **Ontario Bow Hunter** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 11:23 pm

Here's an example of what I'm talking about..........

Thu, September 9, 2004

Hunters hoping for connection

By JEFF MORRISON, Ottawa Sun

The Community Stewardship Council of Lanark County has again launched an appeal to local landowners to participate in a project which would increase hunter access to their land this fall. Making the Connection is a project benefitting both the land-owner with deer problems and the hunter in search of an area to pursue whitetails.

It is a fabulous tool the landowner can use to help deal with deer problems.

Since its inception three years ago, the landowner/hunter registry has helped many landowners to find responsible hunters.

To date, the response has been overwhelming from the hunting community, but few landowners have taken advantage of the opportunity.
While approximately 200 responsible and willing hunters have supplied their names and information to the registry, only 20 landowners have participated thus far.
We have heard repeatedly over the past couple of years about high deer densities in Lanark County creating substantial crop and property damage, as well as deer-vehicle accidents.

Many factors are responsible for this increase in deer numbers -- mild winters, favourable habitat conditions, lack of natural predators and most importantly for the local hunter, a decreased availability of areas for hunting.

Hunting is the single most effective tool for managing deer populations over large areas.

The landowners who have participated in the program have been extremely pleased with the experience, while the hunters are willing to offer a variety of benefits including: Payment, assistance with work, sharing their harvest, policing the property, and trading expertise.

The registry records contact and background information from hunters, such as years of experience, types of firearms used, age and number of hunters in their group or if they hunt alone and do they carry liability insurance.

Landowners who contact the Stewardship Council are then supplied with this information, enabling them to remain in full control of contact with the hunter. It is the ultimate symbiotic relationship where both parties benefit.

For more information about the registry, please contact Jeff Ward at (613) 267-4200, Ext. 153.

Woodsman · Post by **Woodsman** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:29 am

Well, then I'm not alone in this. It all boils down to the desire to keep the deer to themselves and/or to let some hunters in and profit from the hunter's desire to hunt. It's probably a sign of the times and what's more to come.

Needlesss to say, I am shopping around for some affordable land. Over, here that means more northern, wooded property(not as many deer) because farm type land has become unaffordable in my area. Real estate is booming right now anywhere near Montreal and I'm sure it's no different in Ottawa.

GREY OWL · Post by **GREY OWL** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 9:39 am

Needlesss to say, I am shopping around for some affordable land. Over, here that means more northern, wooded property(not as many deer) because farm type land has become unaffordable in my area. Real estate is booming right now anywhere near Montreal and I'm sure it's no different in Ottawa.

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Woodsman!! Have you ever thought about moving West. Land here is cheap, cheap, cheap. Prime bush/hay land will sell for about $25-30,000 Can. a quarter (160 acres), about one hours drive from Saskatoon. If you went 3 hours north east for the same price you can buy land and have not only deer, but moose and elk, lots of elk. She's a hunters paradise here, and only getting better.

Just a thought.

Grey Owl

Woodsman · Post by **Woodsman** » Sat Sep 11, 2004 9:47 am

That sounds mighty tempting Grey Owl!

Man, that is down right cheap real estate! Judging from the big buck pics seen recently here, stories I have heard from guys that have been out there, and a world record status whitetail, it surely and truly is a hunting paradise!...and the fishing I hear is great too! Northern pike the length of a man's leg are common place to many of the lakes in the northern part of your beautiful province!