Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
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Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
While I'm not normally inclined to jump on the latest greatest thing, the Micro 400TD checked all the boxes for me. I'm partial to the Micro platform, prefer the camo rail, desire a Tact-100 scope and have been waiting for something that would push 400fps. The fact that it also has the take down feature wasn't necessary, but will certainly make transport easier.
Unboxing went quite smoothly. They always seem so light before you put anything on them. I bolted on the stirrup and scope and it was ready for a test drive. One small item to note is that it does NOT come with a cocking rope. That is likely a good things. People would hurt themselves trying to cock this thing by hand. Also, the bow doesn't come with the Ex-Shox installed. The instructions recommend not shooting the bow for 24 hours after they are installed to allow the tape time to set. I proceeded without them as I had planned.
I should also mention that the weight of the eight Pro Flight arrows I got was 252, 251.5, 251.5, 251.5, 251.1, 250.9, 250.7 and 247.4 grains. The weight of that last arrow is a bit concerning because when coupled with a 100gr point you'd be slightly under the minimum required.
I have to admit, it was a bit intimidating cocking the 400TD the first time coming from a Micro 335. The draw length of my Micro 335 is only 9'ish inches, so the limbs don't appear to flex much. With the 400TD, not only do the limbs flex, they flex a lot. It is obvious why they designed new limb tips. I don't think there is any way the string would have stayed on the original limb tips if they were drawn back this far. The new limb tips "hook" the string better at this extended draw length. It certainly is narrow when at full draw and you can tell there is a lot of energy being stored.
Knowing that there were others interested in how this bow would perform with different weights of arrows, I made up a few options for testing. First, I took shots with three different weights of arrows with the stock bow (minus the Ex-Shox). I matched arrows and points to achieve exact weights. Here are the results:
350 grains = 391 fps (Pro Flight + 100gr field point)
400 grains = 372 fps (Pro Flight + 150gr field point)
409 grains = 370 fps (Custom Spynal Tap + 100gr field point)
Then I removed the string stars and R.A.V.S. silencers that are part of the SDS package. The air brakes and ADF are the only limb protection. The results were about where I had hoped.
350 grains = 403 fps (Pro Flight + 100gr field point)
400 grains = 382 fps (Pro Flight + 150gr field point)
409 grains = 380 fps (Custom Spynal Tap + 100gr field point)
Just for grins, I know there are some that like to toss logs at deer (or hogs, etc.).
460 grains = 361 fps (Custom Spynal Tap + 150gr field point)
The Pro Shot trigger broke cleanly, with no travel but felt a bit heavier than I had hoped. Actually, to me it feels almost exactly like the stock trigger in my Micro 335. Maybe I'll look at this at some point, but it is acceptable.
I ended the 26-shot session by putting an arrow in a 2" circle at 40 yards utilizing the illumination as it was getting late.
So far, this thing looks like a home run. Its a full camo Micro that will shoot my hunting weight arrow 380 fps. With winter bearing down, I may not get a chance to see how broadheads fly from it until spring. I'll certainly have to invest in a better broadhead target and probably another field point target as well. I know my Block 4x4 will not be enough to stop the broadheads because it barely does on 335fps arrows. On dull/rounded field points, it still pushed them through the bag target with cloth sticking out the back.
So far, I'm impressed.
Unboxing went quite smoothly. They always seem so light before you put anything on them. I bolted on the stirrup and scope and it was ready for a test drive. One small item to note is that it does NOT come with a cocking rope. That is likely a good things. People would hurt themselves trying to cock this thing by hand. Also, the bow doesn't come with the Ex-Shox installed. The instructions recommend not shooting the bow for 24 hours after they are installed to allow the tape time to set. I proceeded without them as I had planned.
I should also mention that the weight of the eight Pro Flight arrows I got was 252, 251.5, 251.5, 251.5, 251.1, 250.9, 250.7 and 247.4 grains. The weight of that last arrow is a bit concerning because when coupled with a 100gr point you'd be slightly under the minimum required.
I have to admit, it was a bit intimidating cocking the 400TD the first time coming from a Micro 335. The draw length of my Micro 335 is only 9'ish inches, so the limbs don't appear to flex much. With the 400TD, not only do the limbs flex, they flex a lot. It is obvious why they designed new limb tips. I don't think there is any way the string would have stayed on the original limb tips if they were drawn back this far. The new limb tips "hook" the string better at this extended draw length. It certainly is narrow when at full draw and you can tell there is a lot of energy being stored.
Knowing that there were others interested in how this bow would perform with different weights of arrows, I made up a few options for testing. First, I took shots with three different weights of arrows with the stock bow (minus the Ex-Shox). I matched arrows and points to achieve exact weights. Here are the results:
350 grains = 391 fps (Pro Flight + 100gr field point)
400 grains = 372 fps (Pro Flight + 150gr field point)
409 grains = 370 fps (Custom Spynal Tap + 100gr field point)
Then I removed the string stars and R.A.V.S. silencers that are part of the SDS package. The air brakes and ADF are the only limb protection. The results were about where I had hoped.
350 grains = 403 fps (Pro Flight + 100gr field point)
400 grains = 382 fps (Pro Flight + 150gr field point)
409 grains = 380 fps (Custom Spynal Tap + 100gr field point)
Just for grins, I know there are some that like to toss logs at deer (or hogs, etc.).
460 grains = 361 fps (Custom Spynal Tap + 150gr field point)
The Pro Shot trigger broke cleanly, with no travel but felt a bit heavier than I had hoped. Actually, to me it feels almost exactly like the stock trigger in my Micro 335. Maybe I'll look at this at some point, but it is acceptable.
I ended the 26-shot session by putting an arrow in a 2" circle at 40 yards utilizing the illumination as it was getting late.
So far, this thing looks like a home run. Its a full camo Micro that will shoot my hunting weight arrow 380 fps. With winter bearing down, I may not get a chance to see how broadheads fly from it until spring. I'll certainly have to invest in a better broadhead target and probably another field point target as well. I know my Block 4x4 will not be enough to stop the broadheads because it barely does on 335fps arrows. On dull/rounded field points, it still pushed them through the bag target with cloth sticking out the back.
So far, I'm impressed.
Last edited by DuckHunt on Tue Dec 31, 2019 11:06 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
Thanks for the thorough review!!
Bill
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Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
U.S. Navy 1969-1973 USS Truxtun DLGN-35
Excalibur Firebolt Arrows
NuFletch Ignitor Nocks
Carbon Express Torrid SS 100 gr. Broadheads
Summit Viper SD Climbing Tree Stand with Sherpa Hunting cart kit
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Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
Oh DuckHunt I am so JEALOUS!
I had one in the shopping cart for a boxing Day sale, but I never hit the button! Just didn't do it
Congrats man!
I had one in the shopping cart for a boxing Day sale, but I never hit the button! Just didn't do it
Congrats man!
Blackout BD-Axe "Hatchet340"
Suppressor 400TD
Assassin 400Extreme
Suppressor 400TD
Assassin 400Extreme
Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
Sounds wicked mean! Good Luck with the new bow.
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Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
Thanks for the write-up, should be very helpful to those considering getting one.
Micro Suppressor 400 TD (Two of 'em)
Bulldog 360 Blackout
Micro 360 TD Pro (Kryptek Altitude)
Matrix 380
Vixenmaster strings - Love 'em! | DrStirrup - Good stuff man!
Bulldog 360 Blackout
Micro 360 TD Pro (Kryptek Altitude)
Matrix 380
Vixenmaster strings - Love 'em! | DrStirrup - Good stuff man!
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Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
Great review of a wicked bow!!
AJ
AJ
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Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
Taking notes....LOL
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Deadzone.
TriggerTech.
Dr. Sturrip
BEE's
BullDog 360
Nikon Bolt aka P3
Zombie Slayers
1 Corinthians 13:4-7
Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
..... impressed with your review.... thanks for the detail!
In a tough situation and wonder where God is; ...the Teacher is always quiet during the test.
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
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Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
You definitely need one Anthony! Maybe 2!
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Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
.....find buyers for my A420TD and A360 and I might entertain the idea!
In a tough situation and wonder where God is; ...the Teacher is always quiet during the test.
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Anthony
A360 (l'Assassino)
AXE 340
Scorpyd DS (w/AeroCrank AD)
GRZ2
G1-NM335(On loan)
ZS,Ex
Spits
Vixenmaster Strings
Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
NOW is the time to sell!
Blackout BD-Axe "Hatchet340"
Suppressor 400TD
Assassin 400Extreme
Suppressor 400TD
Assassin 400Extreme
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Re: Micro Suppressor 400TD first impressions
Congrats on yer new 400. I hope it serves you well & you clobber some tick toters