Is this acceptable?
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Re: Is this acceptable?
It sounds to me like you may have another bad scope . When you talk to danny ask him about trading your scope for a Leupold .
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Re: Is this acceptable?
If you can move the scope up or down by hand and the mount [4] screws are not loose, it's the trigger assy screws.
I don't think that's your problem.......Are you sand bagging it to sight in? Most of Excals scopes are 1 click=1/2" at 20 yds.
How does it do for groups? Same bit off at diff targets? Don't shoot it twice w/ same target.
You shouldn't need to shim anything. If all else fails, send the xbow & scope to Danny........
Your problems are unusual for Excals.......Good Luck!
I don't think that's your problem.......Are you sand bagging it to sight in? Most of Excals scopes are 1 click=1/2" at 20 yds.
How does it do for groups? Same bit off at diff targets? Don't shoot it twice w/ same target.
You shouldn't need to shim anything. If all else fails, send the xbow & scope to Danny........
Your problems are unusual for Excals.......Good Luck!
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Re: Is this acceptable?
Once stock off you will see two screws holding the trigger assembly in check those.
If tight then you will have to take it to the dealer or send it to Danny to get checked out.
If tight then you will have to take it to the dealer or send it to Danny to get checked out.
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Re: Is this acceptable?
I think something is awry with the bow because I'm not getting good groups, and I'm shooting from a rest. Scope is rock solid with no noticeable play anywhere, but my groups are maybe 3 inches at 20 yds.
Re: Is this acceptable?
I would confide in excalibur warranty people and quit messin around with it
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I suggest calling excal as well. Sent my SMF scope in after 20 shots, got a new one very fast turn around. Haven't tried it still in the box.
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Re: Is this acceptable?
Most defiantly not acceptable.filly wrote:I think something is awry with the bow because I'm not getting good groups, and I'm shooting from a rest. Scope is rock solid with no noticeable play anywhere, but my groups are maybe 3 inches at 20 yds.
If you dis-assembled your crossbow down to the trigger unit mounting bolts and reassembled, but found nothing wrong. I would guess its the scope. Danny Miller is your best bet, but you already know what. Give him another call and see what he suggests.
I suggest if you have a suitable scope laying around mount it and see if the problem goes away.
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Re: Is this acceptable?
Got a 2-7x32 Nikon ProStaff...should I put it on? I'd like a fixed power, however.
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I would try it to see, maybe try some other rings if ya have them. I didn't use the rings that came with the bow, had aluminum vertical split rings on hand.
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Re: Is this acceptable?
Absolutely try it. I also suggest also ditch the Excalibur rings for some Leupold rifleman detachable low rings. These are the rings I use for mounting my Leupold VX-I 2-7x33mm scope on my Matrix 355. I set and leave my scope on 4x.filly wrote:Got a 2-7x32 Nikon ProStaff...should I put it on? I'd like a fixed power, however.
I feel once you discover its the scope you will be happy with your Nikon ProStaff scope.
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Re: Is this acceptable?
what the guys are saying is ..take the stock off and look at the trigger mount screws. youll see them .one behind the trigger and one in the front of it .filly wrote:I think something is awry with the bow because I'm not getting good groups, and I'm shooting from a rest. Scope is rock solid with no noticeable play anywhere, but my groups are maybe 3 inches at 20 yds.
your scope is connected to the rail which is connected to the trigger unit.
..if the trigger unit is loose or maybe a small piece of plastic has gotten in between it and the rail during assembly then that's your problem..
you have to take off the scope mount to get the trigger unit out and since you tried and could not get those screws out .. at least check the trigger screw tightness. .
also check any other screws on the bow such as the riser to rail mount screws located under the front of the rail..
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Re: Is this acceptable?
Man, I am at the end of my rope messing with this thing. Probably 5 or 6 hours over the past couple of days...the last hour outside at 9 p.m. in 28 degree weather. I'm giving up.
Put the Nikon on and some weaver rings. Really had to crank down on the turret to get the elevation right. When sighted in, next shot would be off an inch or so. Next one might drop 3 inches. Some right, some left. Damn thing won't group. And with the Nikon on top, I don't think I can point to the scope.
I did go in beforehand and check on the trigger assembly. Weren't "loose," but I could turn the bolts maybe 3/4 turn till truly tight. Anyway, no improvement in the groups.
I can't figure out what might be causing this. I'm ruling out the scope now. Everything is tight, too. This is the Axiom with the nylon rail, but man, that thing is solid. I can't see how it could flex during a shot. It's supposed to give the same accuracy as the other models but just allow you to save a bit of $ by not being machined aluminum. Anyway, I'm at a loss.
Gonna call Dan again in the a.m. and let him know what's going on. I assume he's gonna tell me to send in the bow. I'll tell you I'm thinking of sending him the $ difference and picking up an Exocet to get out of the SMF rail material.
Put the Nikon on and some weaver rings. Really had to crank down on the turret to get the elevation right. When sighted in, next shot would be off an inch or so. Next one might drop 3 inches. Some right, some left. Damn thing won't group. And with the Nikon on top, I don't think I can point to the scope.
I did go in beforehand and check on the trigger assembly. Weren't "loose," but I could turn the bolts maybe 3/4 turn till truly tight. Anyway, no improvement in the groups.
I can't figure out what might be causing this. I'm ruling out the scope now. Everything is tight, too. This is the Axiom with the nylon rail, but man, that thing is solid. I can't see how it could flex during a shot. It's supposed to give the same accuracy as the other models but just allow you to save a bit of $ by not being machined aluminum. Anyway, I'm at a loss.
Gonna call Dan again in the a.m. and let him know what's going on. I assume he's gonna tell me to send in the bow. I'll tell you I'm thinking of sending him the $ difference and picking up an Exocet to get out of the SMF rail material.
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Re: Is this acceptable?
Wow not the scope. OK, so let us know what happens with Danny Miller's advice.
Andrew
Andrew
2013 Excalibur Matrix 355 Xtra
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
2007 Leupold VX-I 2-7x33 Dark Earth NWTF Edition Turkey Plex scope
Dan xcaliber flemish Brownell XS2 string, 18" Easton XX75 2219 aluminum shafts, 2" Bohning Blazer vanes, NAP 170gr F.O.C., Danny Miller's RBBB's
Re: Is this acceptable?
Try turning the scope rings around.
I know you said you switched from front to back but you should also spin them.
So... if you are having trouble with the lock screw on the right side of the bow, spin the rings so the lock screw is on the left of the bow.
I know you said you switched from front to back but you should also spin them.
So... if you are having trouble with the lock screw on the right side of the bow, spin the rings so the lock screw is on the left of the bow.
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Re: Is this acceptable?
Hate to hear you having all that headache. Like you say, the SMF is solid, unless yours is a defect of some sorts. I actually looked at a Phoenix but preferred the ibex. Keep us informed.
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