Rethinking my Montecs
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Rethinking my Montecs
Since I had 6 Montec CS 100gr BHs laying around from my last buffalo hunt, I decided to give them a try this year on my BEA Zombies. I shot a deer opening morning and had to go through both front shoulders. The BH performed great in that regard. Busted through both with no problem, however I could not find the arrow. I'll look more later.
It was raining that morning (drizzling at the time of the shot) but there was just no blood. After field dressing, I verified that the arrow went through both lungs (front part) and the deer only went about 40 yards. But no blood - zero. I even went back after I found the deer trying to find the trail. Nothing. The other thing that was odd for me, was this. The arrow went in the right side and out the left side. Deer fell on it's left side. I did not field dress right away and drug it out on it's left side (about a mile) Field dressed it by the truck and went home. When I skinned it, the meat between the ribs and hide was just full of blood. Almost like shock from a bullet wound. I have not seen that before on a deer shot with an arrow.
So on one hand I feel it's a nice tough BH, but on the other it gives weak blood trails. Been doing some research and this seems to be a trend with this BH.
Anyone else confirm or deny? I'll probably try to shoot at least one more deer with a Montec (because of the rain) and see what kind of blood trail I get because I'm confident that if I get both lungs it won't go far. But I'll also probably switch exclusively to Slick Tricks. Great blood trails last year with my 150gr Xbow Tricks. But I wanted a 100gr head this year so I figured I'd try these out again.
It was raining that morning (drizzling at the time of the shot) but there was just no blood. After field dressing, I verified that the arrow went through both lungs (front part) and the deer only went about 40 yards. But no blood - zero. I even went back after I found the deer trying to find the trail. Nothing. The other thing that was odd for me, was this. The arrow went in the right side and out the left side. Deer fell on it's left side. I did not field dress right away and drug it out on it's left side (about a mile) Field dressed it by the truck and went home. When I skinned it, the meat between the ribs and hide was just full of blood. Almost like shock from a bullet wound. I have not seen that before on a deer shot with an arrow.
So on one hand I feel it's a nice tough BH, but on the other it gives weak blood trails. Been doing some research and this seems to be a trend with this BH.
Anyone else confirm or deny? I'll probably try to shoot at least one more deer with a Montec (because of the rain) and see what kind of blood trail I get because I'm confident that if I get both lungs it won't go far. But I'll also probably switch exclusively to Slick Tricks. Great blood trails last year with my 150gr Xbow Tricks. But I wanted a 100gr head this year so I figured I'd try these out again.
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Re: Rethinking my Montecs
I am not a Montec user.Seems a good durable head.
Wondering if your blood shot area was result of a sucking chest type wound where as much blood is pulled back in as goes outward.If no artery severed there may not have been much blood to exit in a short distance. Have with other heads and compound bow had sixty to eighty yards before blood accumulated enough to leave a faint trail and tiny spots only prior. One was in rear of brisket and the other from above between the shoulders, both with no exit wound.
Wondering if your blood shot area was result of a sucking chest type wound where as much blood is pulled back in as goes outward.If no artery severed there may not have been much blood to exit in a short distance. Have with other heads and compound bow had sixty to eighty yards before blood accumulated enough to leave a faint trail and tiny spots only prior. One was in rear of brisket and the other from above between the shoulders, both with no exit wound.
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I shot my deer last Sunday with a Montec and did not get a complete pass through cause arrow lodged in the offside shoulder bone. I did get a pretty good blood trail even then though. Sounds to me like you had a fairly high double lung hit and the body cavity did not have time to fill with blood before she fell over. It only take a deer a couple of seconds to go 40 yards when hit. It is not unusual to not have a blood trail when they drop that fast.
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I've not shot the Montec heads but with 40 years bow hunting experience I'll say without a doubt that different heads have different characteristics . Some leave better blood trails on average , Some make gapping holes that stay open , Some make hole that close up and are hard to even find . I'm not going to name brands but there are differences !
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Re: Rethinking my Montecs
Most depends where and what angle the arrow entered and exited, doesn't take much to block a exit wound, most the time blood fills the chest cavity before bleeding from the mouth or nose, I've shot them and they stand there for a few minutes and fell over, also blown the heart clean out and the deer still go a hundred yds, one thing is for sure you never know even with good hits every time
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Re: Rethinking my Montecs
I agree with you all. It was a higher hit and more forward and she didn't go far. Last year I used the Slick Tricks and had blood within 2 yds of the shot each time. Just wondering if it has to do with the sharpness of the Montec. With the blade angles at 60 degrees I can't seem to get them shaving sharp. But all 3 went completely though a bison in 2013 and this one blew through this deer. They fly great, but had this deer gone 100 yds in that wet woods, I might be telling a different story with no blood to give me even a hint of direction.
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Re: Rethinking my Montecs
The guys before me explained everything, it occurs...
i guess it was not from a treestand, in this case you have 'always' a bloodtrail if the bolt had a passthrough.So, no problem, but after raining, you could have some luck and find your arrow (seek the color of the wanes).
Or go with a dog, sometimes, they smell the very fine blood drops on the arrows.
i guess it was not from a treestand, in this case you have 'always' a bloodtrail if the bolt had a passthrough.So, no problem, but after raining, you could have some luck and find your arrow (seek the color of the wanes).
Or go with a dog, sometimes, they smell the very fine blood drops on the arrows.
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after searching for mine last sat in the drizzly weather I can under stand the no blood...it is super hard to see. had it been dry and crisp you and me may have picked t up fairly quickly..
never shot a montec but I say its not the heads fault. sometimes it just happened. congrats on the deer!!
never shot a montec but I say its not the heads fault. sometimes it just happened. congrats on the deer!!
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Re: Rethinking my Montecs
I have shot n used the Montecs good BH. sometimes with high hits no or not much blood til the animal hits the ground. I try to shoot low heart/lung area so blood gets out the hole quicker. Sometimes i don't succeed & i get a higher hit like you. Then its all about searching fer the animal. I love my girls, they found my deer in a min or 2.
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Like others have said, sometimes strange things happen even with well placed shots. I've shot a couple that left little or no blood on the ground until the last 10 or 15 feet, and when you finally find blood, well there's the deer a few feet away. They bled plenty but it all stayed inside the chest cavity.
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Re: Rethinking my Montecs
It's funny how when a fixed head does not preform well it's the shot placement . When an expandable does the same thing it's because they are junk . If your broadhead is sharp In MY opinion it's 99% shot placement. A 40 yard recovery is very good ,your broadhead did it's job . A quick and clean kill in a matter of seconds .
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Re: Rethinking my Montecs
I would say a bit of overthinking is occurring --- the deer only went a short distance and was quickly recovered -- there is absolutely nothing better than that ---unless I missed it I did not see the angle of the shot mentioned -- my guess is that it may have been fairly flat thus no drain hole --- chest cavity did not fill up to the overflow --- just my guess
Re: Rethinking my Montecs
I use and have used the Montec broadheads successfully in the past and will use them again this upcoming season. Usually have had a good blood trail to follow with quite short recovery distance. I try to get the shot placement fairly low in the lung area with the hopes of some good blood drainage. Very good you where able to recover your deer.
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Use the broadhead you feel most comfortable with reguardless of what type it is. When your confindence level is highest, everything works and makes you feel the most comfortable and confident and happy. No second guesses when your at that level. Good hunting.
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